Adam and Eve Had Only Three Sons!

Six to ten-thousand years ago, some Christian apologists assert, the human species began with a single man and woman pair: Adam and Eve. And we are told that they had several children:

Cain… Abel… Seth…

Wait, that’s only three children and… they’re… all… boys.

“The human race is the product of Eve having sex with her sons!” “Adam and Eve only had three male children; think about that carefully!”

The family of Adam and Eve is often held up as a “gotcha” by unbelievers: an obvious flaw in the story which calls into question everything else about it. It is implied that not only was the human race initially increased by way of incest but that it was (at least initially) incest between mother and sons.

A Family That Just Won’t Quit

While it is true that Adam and Eve only had three named children, the “Adam, Eve, and their three kids alone” atheist argument falls apart just a few chapters into the Bible, chapter five specifically.

Chapter five pulls back a little bit to give a broader view of Adam’s lengthy life and progeny. Abel had been killed, and for all intents, Cain was living in exile, no longer a part of Adam’s “generations” or family so far as the author of Genesis is concerned. So with that in mind, chapter five tells us of the birth of Adam’s third named son: Seth.

The chapter quickly moves forward with Seth’s family, their children, and so on until the narrative gets to the next big event, the Deluge, or great flood. However, before it does so, it caps off Adam’s life thus:

The days of Adam after he fathered Seth were 800 years; and he had other sons and daughters. Genesis 5:4

In case you missed it, here is the critical bit: and he had other sons and daughters.

Every single meme or objection you’ve ever seen which mentions that Adam and Eve had only three sons is false. “Fake news!” as they say.

Atheists often make the claim that they are atheists because they have “read the Bible.” Fair enough; reading the Bible is what killed my faith in its god and savior as well. However, if we’re going to proclaim some sort of enlightened state brought about by reading a book, we do ourselves a disservice and call into question the intellectual rigor of our movement if we’re missing a simple detail from early in the book for the sake of a “gotcha” argument or meme.

Because Adam and Eve had “sons and daughters” over the course of several centuries, there were plenty of pairings possible to get the human race off to a good start.

Examples from the Wild

Arguments Atheists Should Not Use

I have little doubt that atheists are right about the whole god thing, namely that there is no evidence for any deity or is otherwise no reason to believe in one.

That said, atheists can be and in fact can be often wrong in how they express their lack of belief, especially in how they approach or engage those who possess theistic beliefs.

By doing this, these atheists weaken our case and present an opportunity for theists to call out the weakness of atheism’s arguments. Given how much baggage atheism is already weighed down with, expressing our message of unbelief with an eye to detail, a mind for rationality, and a voice of clarity is quite prudent.

Below, I’ll be sharing real arguments used by real atheists which I don’t consider to be good arguments in favor of atheism or against theism. I would encourage any atheist interested in arguing in favor of atheism to familiarize their self with these arguments so that they can eliminate them from their repertoire. Atheism is already stigmatized enough; we don’t need to give those antagonistic toward it an easier job with their criticisms.

Do you know of any bad arguments put forth by atheists? Share them below!

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How to Prove an Atheist Exists, Biblically

As a bit of a follow-up to Definitively Proving God’s Existence, I want to add that in the Hebraic myth discussed in 1 Kings 18:21–40, God was proven to be real by Elijah’s sacrifice being accepted, with a spontaneous combustion of the sacrifice caused by God himself.

The prophets of Baal had no such luck with their sacrifice, as in the myth, their god did not exist to aid them in any way.

How would this play out in a contemporary context, if a believer in the God of the Bible decided to make a sacrifice to God as a show of faith in showing that he is real, in the face of unbelievers who may be making a counter sacrifice? 

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Definitively Proving God’s Existence, One Way or Another

As a skeptic, I have often asked for proof that God — specifically the God of the Bible, the religion of which is an overwhelming majority in my area — exists, to which I’m often told that there is no proof that God exists, that it simply requires faith, or that there is plenty of proof but that it takes faith to actually accept that proof.

I’m also often challenged to prove that God doesn’t exist, the implication being that one cannot prove a negative and so cannot prove that God doesn’t exist, leaving open the possibility that he does exist.

The Bible even goes so far as to say that you cannot test God (Deuteronomy 6:16; Luke 4:12), and some apologists will say that you cannot test God from a position of a lack of faith but that those who have faith in God can test him because they already know he’s real.1

Would you believe, though, that there is an experiment described by the Bible which is entirely repeatable and which can be performed by any group of people, provided one of them is a believer in the God of the Bible and the other isn’t?

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60 Questions from a Muslim to Christians … Answered! (Part 2: Salvation)

Mr. Hussein Khalid Al-Hussein has written an interesting list of 60 Questions for Christians, which I will endeavor to answer here. If you have an apologetics blog or have an interest in defending the faith, answer these questions for yourself as well, and share the answers with your brethren. The more defense of the truth that we have, the better off the church will be.