Don’t Tread on Us

Seven years ago, I woke up to news reports cov­er­ing the worst ever ter­ror­ist attack to occur on Amer­i­can soil. Thou­sands were mur­dered that day in the name of Allah, thou­sands for whom vengeance has yet to come.

It’s sev­en years lat­er. May we nev­er forget.

The fight was brought to our shores. May Yah­weh have mer­cy on the souls of all those who have tread­ed upon this giant which we call Amer­i­ca, and may the blood of all those respon­si­ble for 911 be spilt, just as they have spilt the blood of thou­sands. (The Noahic Covenant demands it.)

Don't Tread on Me
Don’t Tread on Me

7 thoughts on “Don’t Tread on Us”

  1. Rick,

    While I absolute­ly sup­port the idea that cer­tain hor­rors should not be for­got­ten in the hope that we remem­ber the mis­ery they caused, and so do all that can be done so that they nev­er hap­pen again, it takes me by sur­prise to hear you sup­port the con­cept of vengeance.
    Though I don’ t pre­tend to know or under­stand Scrip­ture as thor­ough­ly as you do, it seems incon­sis­tent with the “what would Jesus do” paradigm.
    I’m not per­son­al­ly averse to the “an eye for an eye” men­tal­i­ty towards those respon­si­ble, par­tic­u­lar­ly in this con­text, but I would­n’t have expect­ed you be a pro­po­nent. Maybe I’ve misunderstood?
    What is the Noahic Covenant? I have nev­er seen those words anywhere.

  2. chris­tine: The Noahic Covenant refers to the promis­es made by God to Noah after the flood subsided.

    Among the terms of that covenant were things such as He would nev­er again destroy the world by flood, man may eat meat for food, and that if any man should kill anoth­er man, that mur­der is to be put to death.

    I’ve always found it inter­est­ing that in the same breath as God allowed the con­sump­tion of ani­mals, He for­bade the mur­der of humans — a huge kick in the pants to lib­er­als who pro­mote strict veg­an­ism while in the same breath allow­ing infan­ti­cide through abortion.

    In any event, the sanc­ti­ty of human life is affirmed in Gen­e­sis in numer­ous places, and He makes it clear that if some­one mur­ders, that per­son for­feits their right to life. Paul affirms that it is the gov­ern­men­t’s respon­si­bil­i­ty to pun­ish the wicked with “the sword.”

    I can for­give per­son­al tres­pass­es against myself, as Jesus taught, but Jesus is Jus­tice and is the Judge of the wicked. Because I believe that, I must desire justice.

    The worst part of it all is that the Amer­i­can gov­ern­ment has screwed up so thor­ough­ly in find­ing those respon­si­ble, and it man­aged to get itself embroiled in an unre­lat­ed war in the meantime.

    I doubt I’ve explained myself well, here — think­ing straight is one of the first things to go down the tubes when work­ing goofy shifts with irreg­u­lar sleep­ing sched­ules… — so if you have any more ques­tions, just ask, Christine. :)

  3. Whiskey Bra­vo: My answer to the “What Would Jesus Do” thing is usu­al­ly that He would have those who refuse His rule brought before Him and slain.

    That’s a side of Jesus far too few peo­ple know and even few­er love. As you said, W.B., He is per­fect in anger and per­fect in love, and we must love Him as He is lest we adore an idol.

    “No, I think it was one of the Fetuccinis…”

  4. The “what would Jesus do” ques­tion that is often asked in an attempt to guide our sit­u­a­tion­al ethics is a high­ly flawed ques­tion and not a good guide­line for us to use–no mat­ter how pop­u­lar it has become.

    First of all, few see Jesus in his true form. When ask­ing that ques­tion, we nev­er think of him cast­ing out the mon­ey-chang­ers from the tem­ple (twice) with a whip, while over­turn­ing their stalls. We always think of Jesus as the non­vi­o­lent type, with love, and pup­pies, and fluffy clouds. I’m not being sar­cas­tic, but sim­ply mak­ing a point that we do not “see” Jesus as He real­ly is: God’s Son–perfect in anger and per­fect in love. Just read Psalms 2 if you have any doubt about that (then there is always Rev­e­la­tions, too). This is why it is SO IMPORTANT to have a PERSONAL rela­tion­ship with the Lord and not just a knowl­edge of Him. God wants rela­tion­ship so that we can under­stand Him bet­ter and know His ways. Many sim­ply offer up prayers in the “hope” that they will be answered–we pray “at” the Lord instead of “with” Him. And there is a dif­fer­ence. This is why the Bible repeat­ed­ly points out that there is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end, it is death. Only with that per­son­al rela­tion­ship with God, can we see the intri­ca­cies and nuances that are involved in God’s plan for us in this life. It can­not be “fig­ured out” it must be obtained from a close­ness with Him.

    Such a rela­tion­ship allows us to do what is right, not what “appears” right. Deut. 29:29 and Amos 3:7 are the start­ing points for walk­ing in such a rela­tion­ship with God. Few do, but that is no excuse not to try.

    From a Chris­t­ian per­spec­tive, vengeance is for­bid­den on a per­son­al level–thus the Lord’s state­ment of “Vengeance is mine says the Lord”. But on a nation­al lev­el? No, it is not only per­mis­si­ble, it is often how God judges oth­er nations (both Old and New Tes­ta­ment). While there is a lot more on this sub­ject of vengeance and when is the use of force accept­able to God, I’m out of space and time.…so I’ll leave it at that for now.

  5. Jesus said “Believe my word and accept me as ruler or I will be jus­ti­fied and right to kill you”?
    Is that true, Rick ? He said that? Some­how, I had thought of him as very pacif­ic. I think I equat­ed him with Ghandi.

  6. chris­tine: Per­haps the most famous pas­sage of the Scrip­tures — or at the very least one of the most quot­ed — is John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that who­ev­er believes in him should not per­ish but have eter­nal life.”

    It’s a very pos­i­tive state­ment: If you believe in Jesus Christ, you will be saved and will not perish.

    How­ev­er, for that to be true, the inverse must also be, as Jesus goes on to explain in verse 18: “Who­ev­er believes in him is not con­demned, but who­ev­er does not believe is con­demned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.”

    Due to the nature of God and of His son — that He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and that no one can come to the Father but by Him — then yes, it can be said that those who do not believe in Him will be destroyed.

    Jesus brings this to a head by way of para­ble when He says, “But as for these ene­mies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaugh­ter them before me” (Luke 19:27).

    It all unfolds at the close of Rev­e­la­tion 20, just before the unveil­ing of the New Heav­en and the New Earth.

    I’m not sure when the image of the “paci­fist Jesus” became preva­lent — and it real­ly is — but Jesus is He who rained down fire on Sodom, He who flood­ed the Earth spar­ing only Noah, He who cursed Pharaoh in sav­ing the Israelites..

    He is a con­quer­ing war­rior, as Rev­e­la­tion 19 depicts so beautifully.

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