Cre­ation and Evo­lu­tion, Reconcilable??

by Rick Beckman on September 6, 02006

I’m wise enough to admit that I am not a sci­en­tist. I haven’t fol­lowed the sci­en­tific method through on any­thing that I can think of since my sev­enth or eighth grade project on the rhodo­den­dron plant, and I’m not even sure if I’m spelling it cor­rectly anymore!

But, I’m also wise enough to know that the wis­dom of the world is made fool­ish by that of God. I believe Gen­e­sis 1 just as it is writ­ten, with six days of cre­ative work hap­pen­ing in the order described, in the man­ner described, and in the time described.

I believe that crea­tures were cre­ated to repro­duce after their own kind. The Bible begins with this foun­da­tion, and from it we can be assured that man did not have his ori­gin from the beasts of the field, but rather from the cre­ative work and breath of God.

So what then of evo­lu­tion? Again, I am not a sci­en­tist, nor would I ever accept that evo­lu­tion can account for the ori­gins of all life on earth. The only way land life would have ever formed would be two sea crea­tures evolv­ing into land crea­tures at about the same time and in about the same loca­tion (else they would never find each other to breed, thus dying out after one gen­er­a­tion) and if some form of food had already evolved on land or in shal­low water which existed at the point land life evolved. The odds of all that being “just right” seems absurd to me. Again, I’m not a sci­en­tist, and no, I don’t care to have it explained in detail. As stated, I don’t feel evo­lu­tion is nec­es­sary to explain origins.

But what about since that time? Muta­tions within species do hap­pen, and they can be passed along. I saw a pro­gram on Ani­mal Planet yes­ter­day which dis­cussed two-​headed ani­mals and other such muta­tions. The exam­ple was given of a sow which had a genetic muta­tion which she passed to her piglets. One was born with two esophogi, two snouts, two mouths, and there eyes. It lived for about a year and a half until dying of a lung disease.

We know that muta­tions do hap­pen. That’s evo­lu­tion. That’s genetic change over time. Can it cre­ate a new species? I don’t know, but I wouldn’t think it is impos­si­ble either. A small change every few thou­sand gen­er­a­tions would mean a very slight change in the kind. But the off­spring would always be quite sim­i­lar to its par­ents, and this would be true down the line. Only by look­ing at the begin­nings and end of such a genetic line would one notice a dif­fer­ent, and at no time did any crea­ture not repro­duce after its own kind. The kind sim­ply became some­thing else one minor step at a time.

Sec­ond Peter 3:4ff. speaks of those who mock the com­ing of Christ by claim­ing that every­thing has always gone on as it has now, that no sig­nif­i­cant changes ever take place. Peter calls them will­fully igno­rant of the great flood of the past, which rep­re­sented a sig­nif­i­cant change from the way things had been since cre­ation. Would it not be accu­rate, then, to say that about those who claim that crea­tures can’t, over count­less gen­er­a­tions, become some­thing else if even in the slight­est way, so that they are reg­u­larly dis­tinct from gen­er­a­tions past in at least one notable way? Are they not claim­ing that crea­tures remain the same since God cre­ated them, despite the fact we know they evolve and change, if ever so slightly?

Cre­ation­ists use the straw man of micro– verses macro-​evolution, but they fail to real­ize that macro-​evolution is micro-​evolution over a longer course of time. It doesn’t nec­es­sar­ily require that goo turned into you, but rather that some­time ago a pri­mate existed which, over the course of thou­sands of gen­er­a­tions, has become slightly dif­fer­ent, the pri­mates we know today.

It is sig­nif­i­cant that when unbe­liev­ers attempt to rebuke the Bible or to make sense of it, they often make fools of them­selves for they can­not even com­pre­hend what they are read­ing – it is spir­i­tu­ally dis­cerned and their spirit is dead to the things of the Lord. It seems to me that when Chris­tians attempt to dab­ble in sci­ence, they make fools of them­selves too, and per­haps I am doing a bit of that here. But I pro­pose that there is a mid­dle ground, which accepts the find­ings of evo­lu­tion­ary sci­en­tists in light of what we know to be true from the Scrip­ture. Scrip­ture gives us ori­gins, sci­ence gives us “since then” mate­r­ial, and we are left to draw the con­clu­sions for ourselves.

Any feed­back any­one can give would be appre­ci­ated. But don’t bother attempt­ing to con­vince me Gen. 1 and 2 are a lie or a metaphor or a myth or what­ever else. You’d just be wast­ing your breath. :)

Credit for some of the ideas pre­sented here goes to my dad based upon an old page on his now defunct web­site, a soap­box page in which he won­dered why the Cre­ation vs. Evo­lu­tion debate was still rag­ing when it was seem­ingly quite easy to rec­on­cile the main issues between them. I’ve given that some con­sid­er­a­tion, and I think he may have been on to some­thing there.

Small edit: Thank you, 74.134.106.31, for the col­or­ful com­ment which you left. Due to its nature and the nature of Timothy’s Bur­den, the com­ment can­not be pub­lished, but I wanted to let you know I appre­ci­ate the time spent writ­ing it. With love, thanks for reading.

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Senior September 6, 2006 at 19:35

For clarification purposes….

My reconciliation is summarized most briefly by saying that the sciences (geology, biology, et.al.) do in fact correctly interpret the evidence. This evidence is there either because God put it there at the time of creation, or because it was created by processes since the creation.

Even if people are not, in fact, descended from protoplasm, it is only because God chose a much later point in the evolution of the planet to start from.

If we are to understand the processes and functions of the planet, we need to understand that one of them is evolution. We would be descended from protoplasm if God had chosen to create the world at a point prior to or just at the appearance of life.

Rick Beckman September 6, 2006 at 21:11

I wondered whether you still read here or not. :P

And with that I must disagree. It does not seem feasible that a soul could evolve from that which possessed no soul, or how the spirit could evolve from returning to the earth at death to returning to God at death.

Because these things are noncorporeal and pretty much entirely unverifiable outside of the witness of the Bible, it is not surprising that science does not offer any explanation for such things–for truly, it cannot. I accept that–science must be verifiable, after all! :)

Senior September 6, 2006 at 23:19

As you say, those things are noncorporeal and unverifiable by science.

If God had chosen to create at the big bang, for example, then a being without a soul would evolve into the being with a soul at the touch of God. Science is blind to this.

But the larger point is, that evolution is how the biological world works. Even if God created the world and man six thousand years ago, evolution is how the biological world changes. If one wants to understand the present and future biological world, one needs to examine it in the light of evolution.

Rick Beckman September 7, 2006 at 11:32

Well stated, and with that, I think I can agree.

And in light of another comment which my filter thankfully blocked, thank you for remaining calm, cool, and collected. :)

Colin September 7, 2006 at 13:58

I agree with MUCH of what you say, but not quite everything. :)

We know that mutations do happen. That’s evolution. That’s genetic change over time.

It’s actually not change. Certainly it’s change (as in the example of the pig) of what’s normal. Pigs don’t normally have an extra head, if it does, you might want to move. If that’s what you mean by change, then yes, I agree, that is what’s happening.

But the kind of change that macro-evolution demands is change of types. A pig isn’t going to sprout wings and fly. (they used to fly though, footballs used to be made of pig’s skin) That’s the kind of change that macro-evolution. That’s a new kind of animal.

A pig sprouting a head is not any new information added.

Creationists use the straw man of micro- verses macro-evolution, but they fail to realize that macro-evolution is micro-evolution over a longer course of time.

Micro-evolution is a small change in a species. For instance, a dog changing into a wolf. Genesis 1:24 says that animals produce according to their kind. So a dog and a wolf (correct me if I’m wrong) can have a baby wog or dolf. Therefore they are the same kind (or type) of animal.

Macro-evolution is a large change in a species. For instance a dog becoming a barracuda. (Not proposing that that’s the actual order that anyone would suggest, it’s just an example) A dog that had a barracuda baby would be an instance of (sudden) macro-evolution. That’s completely new information in the DNA. No matter how much mico-evolution occurs you can’t make a dog turn into a barracuda.

I think we agree on the basics (Literal six day creation, the Bible being absolutely 100% true) so a disagreement in this is not only okay, but healthy. :) I have no qualms, just wanted to offer my two cents.

I give you my full permission to make fun of any grammar or spelling errors I have committed. I would do the same to you. :)

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